ISLAM SUFI

Are Muslims the "Chosen People" of GOD? If not, then who are?

No race, color or gender are chosen by GOD Almighty in Islam. Everyone is evaluated by his Good Deeds.

Allah Almighty Said in the Noble Quran:

"O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other. Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well-acquainted. (The Noble Quran, 49:13)"

Muslims believe that the idea of "Chosen People" is a Jewish lie that was fabricated and inserted into the Bible to make the People of Israel be the Superior over all nations. The Bible, however, admits that it got corrupted by the Jews themselves, thus making their bogus claims get flushed right down the toilet.

The Jews had corrupted the Bible:

Let us look at what GOD Almighty Said to the Jews in the Bible:

"`How can you say, "We [the Jews] are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"

The Revised Standard Version makes it even clearer: "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"

In either translation, we clearly see that the Jews had so much corrupted the Bible with their man-made cultural laws and fabrications, that they had turned the Bible into a lie! See Also Deuteronomy 31:25-29 where Moses peace be upon him predicted the corruption/tampering of the Law (Bible) after his death. The Book of Moses predicted that the Law (Bible) will get corrupted. The Book of Jeremiah which came approximately 826 years after did indeed confirm this corruption.

Deuteronomy 31:24-29

024:	And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished,
025:	That Moses commanded the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying,
026:	Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.
027:	For I know thy rebellion, and thy stiff neck: behold, while I am yet alive with you this day, ye have been rebellious against the LORD; and how much more after my death?
028:	Gather unto me all the elders of your tribes, and your officers, that I may speak these words in their ears, and call heaven and earth to record against them.
029:	For I know that after my death ye will utterly corrupt yourselves, and turn aside from the way which I have commanded you; and evil will befall you in the latter days; because ye will do evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger through the work of your hands.
030:	And Moses spake in the ears of all the congregation of Israel the words of this song, until they were ended. In contrast God has perfected the Religion of Islam and has choosen Islam as the religion for all mankind, over all other religions on the face of the earth forever till the day of Judgement, for those who fear , love and surrender to God Allmighty , irrespective of Race , Colour or Caste "This day I have perfected for you your religion, and completed my favor upon you and have chosen Islam as your way of life." (Holy Qur’an 5:3) "It is He who has sent His messenger (Muhammad) with the guidance and the Religion of truth(Islam), to prevail over all religions, even though the idolaters may detest." (Holy Quran 9:33)

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An important note:

As Muslims, we do not embrace the pedophilia, rape, terrorism and all of the other forms of evil that exist in the Bible, nor do we believe that the Prophets of Allah Almighty, peace and blessings be upon all of them, ever committed such cruel acts that are falsely attributed to them.

We're only exposing the corrupted bible and the evil that exists in it.

QUESTION 2.

Abdul Saleeb said (Meaning Servant of the Cross who converted from being a Servant of Allah meaning Abdullah from Islam to Christianity said )

Christianity and Islam
Like almost any other Muslim, my original reaction to the claims of Christians about Jesus Christ was that of utter shock. These claims not only seemed like plain blasphemy but also quite nonsensical. How could any rational being believe such things about an honored prophet of God? Despite my fundamental theological differences with my friends, there was something about their life and faith that impressed me a great deal. There was a sincerity in their relationship with God and with other people that I had not encountered. So I would often tell them that I did not want to deny their faith but I just wanted to find a compromise so that I could hold to the truth of Islam and they could continue to hold to their faith.

However, I was in no doubt that their belief about Jesus was based on statements that the prophet Jesus had never actually claimed for himself. My difficulty in understanding Christian belief was very much along the lines that have historically separated Islam from Christianity.

I did not grant in any way that the Bible, especially the New Testament documents, were reliable when it came to reporting the words of Christ. Anything in the Bible that disagreed with the Qur'an was automatically rejected as being a corrupt teaching in the Bible.

My spiritual journey went on for months. Oftentimes I did find comfort in the Qur'an, but I was encountering more questions in that book than answers. For example, the violent tone of many of the Qur'anic passages (especially against the unbelievers but also against the Jewish and Christian people) began to bother me, when compared with the emphasis on love in the New Testament. One particular passage that troubled me, especially in light of my good friendship with many Christians, was in Sura 5:51.


"O ye who believe! Take not Jews and Christians for your friends and protectors; they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily God guideth not a people unjust."

ANSWER :

Abdul Saleeb said he finds the tone of Quran more violent? ???

Any way cant blame him then for he was a Muslim and did not study the bible then , but what about after he converted to Christianity and has written a book comparing Islam and Christianity ? or has he still continued to read only half of Bible as he did with the Quran ? which is very unlikely as he has a religious degree in Christianity as he claims

“Abdul Saleeb says Soon after my own conversion, I decided to dedicate my entire life to promoting the Good News of Christ among Muslims and especially the people of my own country. I later came to the United States and received my undergraduate and graduate degrees in Biblical and Theological Studies. I also co-authored a book called Answering Islam: The Crescent in the Light of the Cross.”

Is he still innocent of being biased or ignorant about Islam? or is he simply the one who was left to misguided by Allah because Allah did not find him fit to be a Muslim because of his sinister and evil ideas about Islam? I have very strong reasons to believe it was the later unfortunately in his case.

"O ye who believe! Take not Jews and Christians for your friends and protectors; they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily God guideth not a people unjust." QURAN Sura 5:51.

when all Allah is saying do not take friendship with BAD Jews and BAD Christians , and it is no surprise Allah forbids Muslims from making friendship with BAD Muslims(Hypocrites)

"One Day will the Hypocrites( Among Muslims)- men and women - say to the Believers: "Wait for us! Let us borrow (a Light) from your Light!" It will be said: "Turn ye back to your rear! then seek a Light (where ye can)!" So a wall will be put up betwixt them, with a gate therein. Within it will be Mercy throughout, and without it, all alongside, will be (Wrath and) Punishment! (The Noble Quran, 57:13)"

The Hypocrites, men and women, ( Among Muslims) (have an understanding) with each other: They enjoin evil, and forbid what is just, and are close with their hands. They have forgotten Allah. so He hath forgotten them. Verily the Hypocrites are rebellious and perverse.

Allah hath promised the Hypocrites men and women, and the rejecters, of Faith, the fire of Hell: Therein shall they dwell: Sufficient is it for them: for them is the curse of Allah, and an enduring punishment,- (The Noble Quran,9: 67-68)"

I feel sorry for this guy Saleeb for he did not read the whole Quran but made some quick unfortunate judgments based on his limited reading and understanding of Quran , for he complete blindly skips or is totally ignorant about the below verses of Quran

"And there are, certainly, among the People of the Book [Jews and Christians], those who believe in God, in the revelation to you, and in the revelation to them, bowing in humility to God: They will not sell the Signs of God for a miserable gain! For them is a reward with their Lord, and God is swift in account. (The Noble Quran, 3:199)"

"Not all of them are alike: Of the People of the Book [Jews and Christians] are a portion that stand (For the right): They rehearse the Signs of God all night long, and they prostrate themselves in adoration. They believe in God and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong; and they hasten (in emulation) in (all) good works: They are in the ranks of the righteous. (The Noble Quran, 3:113-114)"

Among the People of the Book [Jews and Christians], are some who, if entrusted with a hoard of gold, will (readily) pay it back; others, who, if entrusted with a single silver coin, will not repay it unless thou constantly stoodest demanding, because, they say, "there is no call on us (to keep faith) with these ignorant (Pagans)." but they tell a lie against Allah, and (well) they know it.

Nay.- Those that keep their plighted faith and act aright,-verily Allah loves those who act aright.

(The Noble Quran, 3:75-76)

Now lets us see how violent Bible is BOTH for GOOD and BAD NON JEWS OR NON CHRISTIANS, NAY EVEN TO INNOCENT CHILDREN AND ANIMALS

Which Mr Saleeb so blindly NEVER EVER DARES to mentions even though he has received undergraduate and graduate degrees in Biblical and Theological Studies , why ?

Because he is so ashamed of violence nature of God and Bible, but he is NOT ASHAMED to make a BIG ISSUE OF SO CALLED VOILENCE IN THE QURAN

Hosea 13:16 (New Living Translation) - The people of Samaria must bear the consequences of their guilt because they rebelled against their God. They will be killed by an invading army, their little ones dashed to death against the ground, their pregnant women ripped open by swords."

Hosea 13:16 (King James) Samaria will bear her guilt because she has rebelled against her God.
They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open.

Hosea 10:13-14 (King James)

Why does the Bible describes the dashing of innocent children to rocks ,rape of women and ripping open a pregnant women belly as ‘God’s righteous judgement, this is sick!

Too Sick to mention

And Mr Saleeb calls Islam violent?

And his new found love Chrsitanity and Bible as non violent ?

Please wake up- from a bad dream and delusions Mr Saleeb

You have failed miserablely both as an Ex- Muslim and as an current Christian

HONSETLY Mr SALEEB , I ASK YOU DO YOU STILL CONSIDER THAT OUR GOD IS LIKE THIS ? AND DO YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT THE BIBLE IN ITS PRESENT FORM IS 100% WORD OF GOD BUT NOT CORRUPTED ? BY HUMAN DEVILS ? AND BY REAL DEVILS ? IF THIS IS THE BOOK YOU WANT TO FOLLOW THEN YOU ARE WELCOME THAT IS YOUR OWN UNFORTUNATE CHOICE , BUT DONT TELL ME GOD CAN ODER SUCH RAPE ,MURDER AND PLUNDER , NO THAT IS NOT MY GOD , IF YOUR GOD IS LIKE THAT , I CANT HELP BUT PITY AT YOUR GOD AND HIS FOLLOWERS

I find it to be absolutely ridiculous that the bible feeds us all kinds of lies and contradictions about “love your enemy”, and yet, we see mass slaughter of suckling infants and innocent boys, girls, unarmed men, women (old and young), and innocent domestic farm animals by the tens of thousands! It is clear that the inconsistent man-altered, man-corrupted and morally corrupt bible is nothing but a false book, and can not be a Divine and Perfect Holy Book!

I challenge any Jew or Christian to produce ONE, JUST ONE Noble Verse from the Muslims’ Noble Quran that condones killing of innocent children, women or even hostile enemy men who drop their weapons before Muslims (surrender).

Further more, Allah Almighty Said in the Noble Quran:

“On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land. (The Noble Quran, 5:32)”

Yet, we see mass slaughters and even rape of girls as seen in the verses above in the man-altered, man-fabricated and man-corrupted bible.

Based on this Noble Verse, I can safely conclude, as a Muslim, that the slaughtering stories of innocent people in the corrupted bible were nothing but man-made lies and laws that were put in the Mouth of God Almighty:

“Know they not Allah Knoweth what they conceal and what they reveal? And there are among them illiterates, who know not the Book (i.e., the Bible), but (see therein their own) desires, and they do nothing but conjecture. Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say: ‘This is from Allah,’ To traffic with it for a miserable price! Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby. (The Noble Quran, 2:77-79)”

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An important note:

As Muslims, we do not embrace the pedophilia, rape, terrorism and all of the other forms of evil that exist in the Bible, nor do we believe that the Prophets of Allah Almighty, peace and blessings be upon all of them, ever committed such cruel acts that are falsely attributed to them.

We're only exposing the corrupted bible and the evil that exists in it.

QUESTION 1.

Abdul Saleeb said (Meaning Servant of the

Cross who converted from being a Servant of

Allah meaning Abdullah from Islam to

Christianity said )

“A question I once asked my teacher revolutionized my worldview. I asked, "How come your word of God says one thing and our word of God says something different?" My teacher, not knowing much about Islam at all, gently asked, "How do you know the Qur'an is the word of God?" I was taken aback by that response. I had lived in a world in which everyone simply presupposed that the Qur'an was dictated word for word by God to the Prophet Muhammad and no one ever questioned that assumption. That brief encounter forced me to start on a journey, engage my Christian friends in hours of cordial discussion and debate about the truthfulness of the Christian faith.”

ANSWER :

The simple reason why Quran is word of God is because it is free of errors and mistakes , while all the other religious books including Bible are full of Mistakes and errors so are simply not the true work of God Because God cannot do mistakes , if a book is full of mistakes then it is naturally not from God but from Humans .

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WHO IS YOUR GOD ?

KINDLY THINK !

GOD CAN NEVER BECOME HUMAN , FOR THE MOMENT HE BECOMES A HUMAN HE CEASES TO BE A GOD AND BECOMES A MORTAL

GOD CREATES EVERYTHING , LEAVE ALONE GOD CHOOSING TO BE A CREATED THING HIMSELF

HOW DOES THIS LOOK LIKE

GOD CREATED ANOTHER GOD ?

NO GOD CANNOT CREATE ANOTHER GOD , IF HE CAN DO THAT THEN THERE WILL BE TWO GODS AND ONE WOULD BE MORE POWERFUL THAN THE OTHER

GOD CUT A PART OF HIMSELF AND CHOOSE TO BE BORN OF A WOMAN AND CHOOSE TO DIE ?

NO GOD CANNOT DIE EVEN IF HE LIKES BECAUSE IF HE CAN DIE OR BE KILLED ON THE CROSS THEN HE IS NOT GOD BUT A MORTAL , WHO CAN BE KILLED BY ANY TOM , DICK AND HARRY - THINK ABOUT IT

NO GOD CANNOT EAT AND DRINK LIKE HUMANS , FOR EATING AND DRINKING IS FOR ENERGY AND THE GOD WHO IS DEPENDANT ON FOOD FOR HIS ENERGY IS NO GOD AT ALL .

FINALLY ALL THESE ARE PAGAN LIES WHICH CORRUPTED THE RELIGION OF CHRISTIANS WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY A PURE ABRAHAM FAITH BELIEVING IN ONE PURE GOD WHO IS FREE FROM ALL DEFECTS .


WHO IS YOUR GOD ?

KINDLY THINK !


“Say: He is Allah,

the One and Only;

Allah, the

Eternal, Absolute;

He begetteth not,nor is He

begotten;

and there is none like unto Him.”



Holy Qur’an,

112:1-4

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Who is your God ?

# posted by abdul raheem syed ( Sufi786) : 9:56 AM  0 Comments

My friends, I have been posting things which may look hostile to the Christian members of this Group, In Oder that they do not misunderstand that I am Insulting Jesus (P) , I want to clarify my position as a Muslim regarding Jesus (p) and what Allah and Quran says about the high Position of Jesus (p) and his Mother Virgin Mary (p)

My friends I am not even dust of Jesus (p) feet to criticize him ,

He was a great Prophet of Allah and his mother Mary(p) is also a blessed women , that is why Allah has named one entire chapter after her name in the Quran Surah Maryam,

Unfortunately there is no such honor for Mary in the Bible where God has named a whole chapter of Bible after Mary , so think about it

I only object to Christians who make make Jesus (P) God

when there is Only one God and he has no son or wife and he is not Human at all ,or resemble any of his creation or can become any of his creation , the moment he becomes any of his creation he is God no more and becomes a Mortal which Is the last thing God will want .

Holy Quran Surah 112. The Unity

1. Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;

2. Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;

3. He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;

4. And there is none like unto Him.

Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD

Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord.

In Quran Allah has named another whole chapter after the family of Prophet Jesus (Isa in Arabic) (s) and Prophet Johan the Baptist (Yahya in Arabic) who where cousins and belonged to one family " THE FAMILY OF IMRAN"

Unfortunately there is no a single Chapter in Bible named after the family of Jesus (p) , just read what Quran says in the Honor of Jesus(p) and his mother Mary (p), so think about it .

QURAN Surah 3. The Family Of 'Imran

42. Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah hath chosen thee and purified thee- chosen thee above the women of all nations.

43. "O Mary! worship Thy Lord devoutly: Prostrate thyself, and bow down (in prayer) with those who bow down."

44. This is part of the tidings of the things unseen, which We reveal unto thee (O Messenger.) by inspiration: Thou wast not with them when they cast lots with arrows, as to which of them should be charged with the care of Mary: Nor wast thou with them when they disputed (the point).

45. Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.

46. "He shall speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. And he shall be (of the company) of the righteous."

47. She said: "O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?" He said: "Even so: Allah createth what He willeth: When He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, 'Be,' and it is!

48. "And Allah will teach him the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel,

49. "And (appoint him) an apostle to the Children of Israel, (with this message): "'I have come to you, with a Sign from your Lord, in that I make for you out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by Allah.s leave: And I heal those born blind, and the lepers, and I quicken the dead, by Allah.s leave; and I declare to you what ye eat, and what ye store in your houses. Surely therein is a Sign for you if ye did believe;

50. "'(I have come to you), to attest the Law which was before me. And to make lawful to you part of what was (Before) forbidden to you; I have come to you with a Sign from your Lord. So fear Allah, and obey me.

51. (Jesus said)"'It is Allah Who is my Lord and your Lord; then worship Him. This is a Way that is straight.'"

Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD

Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord.

Peace – In the end I would like to add the reason why Muslims add the (p) after the name of Jesus(P) it is to honor him by saying ‘PEACE AND BLESSINGS OF ALLAH BE UPON HIM” as taught to us by Prophet Muhammad(s) , no Good Muslim will ever take the Name of Jesus (p) or his Mother without saying “PEACE AND BLESSINGS OF ALLAH BE UPON THEM”

Thank You

May the One True God guide you all

Syed

(Sufi786)

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IS THE BIBLE GODS WORD?

By Ahmed Deedat

CHAPTER FIVE

DAMNING CONFESSIONS

Mrs. Ellen G. White, a "prophetess" of the Seventh Day Adventist Church, in her Bible Commentary Vol. 1, page 14, has this confession to make about the fallibility of the "Holy Bible."

"THE BIBLE WE READ TODAY IS THE WORK OF MANY COPYISTS WHO HAVE IN MOST INSTANCES DONE THEIR WORK WITH MARVELLOUS ACCURACY. BUT COPYISTS HAVE NOT BEEN INFALLIBLE, AND GOD MOST EVIDENTLY HAS NOT SEEN FIT TO PRESERVE THEM ALTOGETHER FROM ERROR IN TRANSCRIBING."

In the following pages of her commentary, Mrs. White testifies further: "I SAW THAT GOD HAD ESPECIALLY GUARDED THE BIBLE" (from what?) "YET WHEN COPIES OF IT WERE FEW, LEARNED MEN HAD IN SOME INSTANCES CHANGED THE WORDS, THINKING THAT THEY WERE MAKING IT PLAIN, WHEN IN REALITY THEY WERE MYSTIFYING THAT WHICH WAS PLAIN, BY CAUSING IT TO LEAN TO THEIR ESTABLISHED VIEWS, WHICH WERE GOVERNED BY TRADITION."

DEVELOPED SICKNESS

The mental malady is a cultivated one. This authoress and her followers can still trumpet from roof tops that "Truly, the Bible is the infallible Word of God." "Yes, it is adulterated, but pure" "It is human, yet divine." Do words have any meaning in their language? Yes, they have in their courts of law, but not in their theology. They carry a "poetic licence" in their preaching.

THE WITNESSES

The most vociferous of all the Bible-thumpers are the Jehovah's Witnesses. On page 5 of their "FOREWORD" mentioned earlier, they confess:

"IN COPYING THE INSPIRED ORIGINALS BY HAND THE ELEMENT OF HUMAN FRAILTY ENTERED IN, AND SO NONE OF THE THOUSANDS OF COPIES EXTANT TODAY IN THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE ARE PERFECT DUPLICATES. THE RESULT IS THAT NO TWO COPIES ARE EXACTLY ALIKE" Now you see, why the whole "foreword" of 27 pages is eliminated from their Bibles. Allah was making them to hang themselves with their own erudition.

POT-LUCK

Out of over four thousand differing manuscripts the Christians boast about, the Church fathers just selected four which tallied with their prejudices and called them Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. We will deal with each of them in their proper place. Here/ let us go over the conclusion of the Jehovah's Witnesses' research as recorded in the now expunged Foreword:

"THE EVIDENCE IS, THEREFORE, THAT THE ORIGINAL TEXT Of THE CHRISTIAN GREEK SCRIPTURES ¹ HAS BEEN TAMPERED WITH, THE SAME AS THE TEXT OF THE LXX THE SAME AS THE TEXT OF THE LXX² HAS BEEN,"

Yet this incorrigible Cult has the effrontery to publish 9 000 000 (Nine Million) copies as a First Edition of a 192-page book entitled — "Is the Bible REALLY the Word of God?" We are dealing here with a sick mentality, for no amount of tampering, as they say, will "APPRECIABLY AFFECT THE AUTHENTICITY OF THE BIBLE" (?). This is Christian logic.

1. New Testament.

2. "LXX" meaning Seventy, is the JWs alternative title of the Old Testament Do not be mystified; they have a habit of calling a simple four letter word, a "tetragrammaton." meaning Seventy, is the JWs alternative title of the Old Testament Do not be mystified; they have a habit of calling a simple four letter word, a "tetragrammaton."

A PATIENT HEARING

Dr. Graham Scroggie in his aforementioned book, pleads, on page 29. for the Bible:-

"AND LET US BE PERFECTLY FAIR AS WE PURSUE THE SUBJECT (Is the Bible the Word of God?). BEARING IN MIND THAT WE ARE TO HEAR WHAT THE BIBLE HAS TO SAY ABOUT ITSELF. IN A COURT OF LAW WE ASSUME THAT A WITNESS WILL SPEAK THE TRUTH, AND MUST ACCEPT WHAT HE SAYS UNLESS WE HAVE GOOD GROUNDS FOR SUSPECTING HIM, OR CAN PROVE HIM A LIAR. SURELY THE BIBLE SHOULD BE GIVEN THE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD, AND SHOULD RECEIVE A LIKE PATIENT HEARING."

The plea is fair and reasonable. We will do exactly as he asks and let the Bible speak for itself.

In the first five books of the Bible — Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy — there are more than 700 statements which prove not only that God is NOT the Author of these books, but that EVEN Moses himself had no hand in them. Open these books at random and you will see:

• "And the Lord said unto him. Away, get thee down . . ."

• "And Moses said unto the Lord, the people cannot come. . ."

• "And the Lord said unto Moses, Go on before the people . . ."

• "And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying . . ."

• "And the Lord said unto Moses, Get down, charge the . . ."

It is manifest and apparent that these are NEITHER the Words of God NOR of Moses. They indicate the voice of a third person writing from hearsay.

MOSES WRITES HIS OWN OBITUARY?

Could Moses had been a contributor to his own obituary before his demise? Did the Jews write their own obituaries? "So Moses . . . DIED . . . And he (God Almighty) BURIED HIM (Moses) ... he was 120 years old when he DIED ... And there arose not a prophet SINCE in Israel like unto Moses …" (Deut. 34:5-10). We will analyze the rest of the Old Testament presently from other angles.

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Women In Islam versus Judaeo-Christian Tradition The Myth & The Reality

By Sherif Abdel Azeem

Chapter 2 . Eve’s Legacy?

2. Eve’s Legacy

The image of Eve as temptress in the Bible has resulted in an extremely negative impact on women throughout the Judaeo-Christian tradition. All women were believed to have inherited from their mother, the Biblical Eve, both her guilt and her guile. Consequently, they were all untrustworthy, morally inferior, and wicked. Menstruation, pregnancy, and childbearing were considered the just punishment for the eternal guilt of the cursed female sex. In order to appreciate how negative the impact of the Biblical Eve was on all her female descendants we have to look at the writings of some of the most important Jews and Christians of all time. Let us start with the Old Testament and look at excerpts from what is called the Wisdom Literature in which we find: “I find more bitter than death the woman who is a snare, whose heart is a trap and whose hands are chains. The man who pleases God will escape her, but the sinner she will ensnare….while I was still searching but not finding, I found one upright man among a thousand but not one upright woman among them all” (Ecclesiastes 7:26-28). In another part of the Hebrew literature which is found in the Catholic Bible we read: “No wickedness comes anywhere near the wickedness of a woman…..Sin began with a woman and thanks to her we all must die” (Ecclesiasticus 25:19,24). Jewish Rabbis listed nine curses inflicted on women as a result of the Fall: “To the woman He gave nine curses and death: the burden of the blood of menstruation and the blood of virginity; the burden of pregnancy; the burden of childbirth; the burden of bringing up the children; her head is covered as one in mourning; she pierces her ear like a permanent slave or slave girl who serves her master; she is not to be believed as a witness; and after everything–death.” 2

St. Tertullian was even more blunt than St. Paul, while he was talking to his ‘best beloved sisters’ in the faith, he said: “Do you not know that you are each an Eve? The sentence of God on this sex of yours lives in this age: the guilt must of necessity live too. You are the Devil’s gateway: You are the unsealer of the forbidden tree: You are the first deserter of the divine law: You are she who persuaded him whom the devil was not valiant enough to attack. You destroyed so easily God’s image, man. On account of your desert even the Son of God had to die.”

St. Augustine was faithful to the legacy of his predecessors, he wrote to a friend: “What is the difference whether it is in a wife or a mother, it is still Eve the temptress that we must beware of in any woman……I fail to see what use woman can be to man, if one excludes the function of bearing children.” Centuries later, St. Thomas Aquinas still considered women as defective: “As regards the individual nature, woman is defective and misbegotten, for the active force in the male seed tends to the production of a perfect likeness in the masculine sex; while the production of woman comes from a defect in the active force or from some material indisposition, or even from some external influence.”Finally, the renowned reformer Martin Luther could not see any benefit from a woman but bringing into the world as many children as possible regardless of any side effects: “If they become tired or even die, that does not matter. Let them die in childbirth, that’s why they are there” Again and again all women are denigrated because of the image of Eve the temptress, thanks to the Genesis account. To sum up, the Judaeo-Christian conception of women has been poisoned by the belief in the sinful nature of Eve and her female offspring.

Let the Quran speak for itself: “For Muslim men and women, for believing men and women, for devout men and women, for true men and women, for men and women who are patient, for men and women who humble themselves, for men and women who give in charity, for men and women who fast, for men and women who guard their chastity, and for men and women who engage much in Allah’s praise– For them all has Allah prepared forgiveness and great reward” Holy Quran (33:35).

“The believers, men and women, are protectors, one of another: they enjoin what is just, and forbid what is evil, they observe regular prayers, practise regular charity, and obey Allah and His Messenger. On them will Allah pour His Mercy: for Allah is Exalted in power, Wise” Holy Quran (9:71).

“And their Lord answered them: Truly I will never cause to be lost the work of any of you, Be you a male or female, you are members one of another” Holy Quran(3:195).

“Whoever works evil will not be requited but by the like thereof, and whoever works a righteous deed -whether man or woman- and is a believer- such will enter the Garden of bliss” (40:40).

“Whoever works righteousness, man or woman, and has faith, verily to him/her we will give a new life that is good and pure, and we will bestow on such their reward according to the best of their actions” Holy Quran (16:97). It is clear that the Quranic view of women is no different than that of men. They, both, are God’s creatures whose sublime goal on earth is to worship their Lord, do righteous deeds, and avoid evil and they, both, will be assessed accordingly. The Quran never mentions that the woman is the devil’s gateway or that she is a deceiver by nature. The Quran, also, never mentions that man is God’s image; all men and all women are his creatures, that is all.

According to the Quran, a woman’s role on earth is not limited only to childbirth. She is required to do as many good deeds as any other man is required to do. The Quran never says that no upright women have ever existed. To the contrary, the Quran has instructed all the believers, women as well as men, to follow the example of those ideal women such as the Virgin Mary and the Pharoah’s wife: “And Allah sets forth, As an example to those who believe, the wife of Pharaoh: Behold she said: ‘O my lord build for me, in nearness to you, a mansion in the Garden, and save me from Pharaoh and his doings and save me from those who do wrong.’ And Mary the daughter of Imran who guarded her chastity and We breathed into her body of Our spirit; and she testified to the truth of the words of her Lord and of His revelations and was one of the devout” (66:11-13).

NOTES :

2.Leonard J. Swidler, Women in Judaism: the Status of Women in Formative Judaism (Metuchen, N.J: Scarecrow Press, 1976) p. 115.
3.Thena Kendath, “Memories of an Orthodox youth” in Susannah Heschel, ed. On being a Jewish Feminist (New York: Schocken Books, 1983), pp. 96-97.4.Swidler, op. cit., pp. 80-81.
5.Rosemary R. Ruether, “Christianity”, in Arvind Sharma, ed., Women in World Religions (Albany: State University of New York Press, 1987) p. 209.

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Women In Islam versus Judaeo-Christian Tradition The Myth & The Reality

By Sherif Abdel Azeem

Chapter 1 – EVE’S FAULT ?

Eve’s Fault? The three religions agree on one basic fact: Both women and men are created by God, The Creator of the whole universe. However, disagreement starts soon after the creation of the first man, Adam, and the first woman, Eve. The Judaeo-Christian conception of the creation of Adam and Eve is narrated in detail in Genesis 2:4-3:24. God prohibited both of them from eating the fruits of the forbidden tree. The serpent seduced Eve to eat from it and Eve, in turn, seduced Adam to eat with her. When God rebuked Adam for what he did, he put all the blame on Eve, “The woman you put here with me –she gave me some fruit from the tree and I ate it.” Consequently, God said to Eve: “I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband and he will rule over you.” To Adam He said: “Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree …. Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat of it all the days of your life…”

The Islamic conception of the first creation is found in several places in the Quran, for example: “O Adam dwell with your wife in the Garden and enjoy as you wish but approach not this tree or you run into harm and transgression. Then Satan whispered to them in order to reveal to them their shame that was hidden from them and he said: ‘Your Lord only forbade you this tree lest you become angels or such beings as live forever.’ And he swore to them both that he was their sincere adviser. So by deceit he brought them to their fall: when they tasted the tree their shame became manifest to them and they began to sew together the leaves of the Garden over their bodies. And their Lord called unto them: ‘Did I not forbid you that tree and tell you that Satan was your avowed enemy?’ They said: ‘Our Lord we have wronged our own souls and if You forgive us not and bestow not upon us Your Mercy, we shall certainly be lost’ ” (7:19:23).A careful look into the two accounts of the story of the Creation reveals some essential differences. The Quran, contrary to the Bible, places equal blame on both Adam and Eve for their mistake. Nowhere in the Quran can one find even the slightest hint that Eve tempted Adam to eat from the tree or even that she had eaten before him. Eve in the Quran is no temptress, no seducer, and no deceiver. Moreover, Eve is not to be blamed for the pains of childbearing. God, according to the Quran, punishes no one for another’s faults. Both Adam and Eve committed a sin and then asked God for forgiveness and He forgave

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St Paul’s Game of hide and seek with his fellow

Christians

Paul says

“There is but One God, the Father, of Whom are all

things, and we in Him — AND one Lord Jesus

Christ” (1 Corinthians 8:6)

What is Paul saying above?

It seems Paul is clearly saying that there is only one God That is God and there is only one Lord Jesus Christ

(Meaning: St Paul does not think Jesus is God at all)

Paul says again

“There is One God and Father of all, Who is above

all, and through all, and in you all” (Ephesians 4:6.)

“There is One God, AND one mediator between God

and men, the MAN Christ Jesus” (1 Timothy 2:5)

What is Paul saying above ?

It seems Paul is clearly saying that there is only one

God That is God

And Jesus Christ is Just an Mediator between man and God ( Meaning: St Paul does not think Jesus is God at all , In fact what Paul clearly seems to be saying is that Jesus Christ is Just a Messenger of God)

This is what God preaches anyway in the Bible

Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is

one LORD

This is what Jesus preaches anyway in the

Bible

Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first

of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel;

TheLord our God is one Lord.

And this what Allah(God) preaches anyway in the Quran

“Certainly they disbelieve who say: “Surely Allah, He

is the Messiah, son of Maryam”. And the Messiah

(Jesus) said: “O Children of Israel! Worship Allah,

my Lord and your Lord, surely whoever associates

(others) with Allah, then Allah has forbidden to him

the garden, and his abode is the fire; and there shall

be no helpers for the unjust.” Holy Quran (5:72)

I

would herby ask sincerely my Christian friends why

they are deceived into thinking Jesus Christ is God

himself?

By this game of hide and seek played by St

Paul ?

PEACE – AMEEN

MAY GOD GUIDE YOU TO THE RIGHT PATH

Courtesy Dr Syed Abdul Raheem (Sufi786)

Author of ‘’ The Only true Religion Debate ‘’

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Was Hagar a concubine of Abraham (p) ?-The conspiracy against Ishmael

let us look at Genesis 16:3, “So after Abram had been living in Canaan ten years, Sarai his wife took her Egyptian maidservant Hagar and gave her to her husband TO BE HIS WIFE . (From the NIV Bible, Genesis 16:3)” Clearly the Bible tells us Abraham (P) Married Hagar.

NO HAGAR WAS NOT THE CONCUBINE OF ABRAHAM(P) BUT HIS LEGALLY WED WIFE ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE

NOW THE QUESTIONS ARISES 1. Then why are some shameless Jews and shameless Christians accusing their own Patriarch Prophet Abraham (p) of having sex with Prostitutes and begetting bastards?Why are some shameless Jews and shameless Christians calling a legally wed wife of Prophet Abraham (p) , Hagar as an concubine ?

ANSWER:Firstly because they are just pure and simple shameless people who are deceived by the devil to speak lies

2. Secondly why are they speaking lies or why is the devil deceiving them to speak lies against their own Prophet and his wife?

ANSWER:Because the one true God of Abraham (p) Promised to make the first born of Abraham(p) , Ishmael (p) into a GREAT NATION ( Arabs the descendants of Ishmael) whom the Lord loves and with whom the Lord also promised his covenant , please read the Bible and see for yourself

Genesis 21:14-21

14 Early next morning Abraham took some food and a full water-skin and gave them to Hagar. He set the child ( Ishmael) on her shoulder and sent her away, and she wandered about in the wilderness of Beersheba.

15 When the water in the skin was finished, she thrust the child under a bush,

16 then went and sat down some way off, about a bowshot distant. How can I watch the child die? she said, and sat there, weeping bitterly.

17 God heard the child crying, and the angel of God called from heaven to Hagar, What is the matter, Hagar? Do not be afraid: God has heard the child crying where you laid him.18 Go, lift the child (Ishmael) and hold him in your arms, because I shall make of him a great nation.

19 Then God opened her eyes and she saw a well full of water; she went to it, filled the water-skin, and gave the child a drink.

20 God was with the child as he grew up. He lived in the wilderness of Paran and became an archer;

21 and his mother got him a wife from Egypt. (The Revised English Bible)

Now you can clearly understand why the Jews and Christians are shamelessly speaking lies or are deceived into speaking lies by the devil against their own God, their own great Prophet Abraham (p), against their own Prophet Abraham’s wife Hagar and against the son of their own Prophet Abraham (p) who is also a great Prophet himself Ishmael (p)

THE JEWS

Firstly it is because some hypocrite Jews are used to shamelessly slander and kill their own prophets

Secondly It is because some shameless racist Jews don’t want to acknowledge the superiority of their half brothers Arabs who are the descendants of Prophet Ishmael (p)

Thirdly it is because some shameless racist Jews don’t want to believe in the last and final messenger of God sent to the entire humanity Prophet Muhammad(s) because he was an Arab .

THE CHRISTIANS

Firstly the Christians shamelessly have made ONE true God of Abraham (p) into THREE

Secondly some Christians have become Pagans by worshiping and making idols of Prophet Jesus(p) and his mother Mary (p)

Thirdly some Christians don’t want to believe in the last and final Messenger of God sent to the entire Humanity Prophet Muhammad (s) who was an Arab, and a descendant of Prophet Ishmael (p)Because the last and final message of God which was given to Prophet Muhammad(s) the Holy Quran openly rejects the Pagan Christians falsehood of making Jesus God or begotten Son of God

“And they say: ”Allah has taken to Himself a son.” Glory be to Him; rather, whatever is in the heavens and the earth is His; all are obedient to Him. The Originator of the heavens and the earth; and when He decrees an affair, He only says to it, “Be”, and it is.” Holy Quran(2:116-117)

“and say not, “Three”. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one God; far be it from His glory that He should have a son; whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His; and Allah is sufficient for a Protector.” Holy Quran (4:171)

“Certainly they disbelieve who say: “Surely Allah – He is the Messiah, son of Maryam”. Say: “Who then could control any thing as against Allah when He wished to destroy the Messiah, son of Maryam and his mother and all those on the earth?” And Allah’s is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and what is between them; He creates what He pleases; and Allah has power over all things.” Holy Quran (5:17)

“The Messiah by no means disdain that he should be a servant of Allah, nor do the angels who are near to Him, and whoever disdains His worship and is proud, He will gather them all together to Himself.” Holy Quran (4:172)

“And they say: “The Beneficent God has taken to Himself a son.” Glory be to Him. Nay! They are honored servants; they do not precede Him in speech and (only) according to His commandment do they act. He knows what is before them and what is behind them, and they do not intercede except for him whom He approves, and for fear of Him they tremble.” Holy Quran (21:26 – 28)

IN THE END I WANT ALL TRUE CHRISTIANS AND JEWS TO SINCERELY REFECLT DEEPLY ON THE ABOVE MATTER AND SAVE THEMSELVES FROM THE DECEPTION OF THE DEVIL , IF THEY HAVE FEAR OF GOD LEFT IN THEIR HEARTS

“Certainly they disbelieve who say: “Surely Allah,

He is the Messiah, son of Maryam”. And the Messiah

(Jesus) said: “O Children of Israel! Worship Allah,

my Lord and your Lord, surely whoever associates

(others) with Allah, then Allah has forbidden to him

the garden, and his abode is the fire; and there shall

be no helpers for the unjust.” Holy Quran (5:72)

Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is

one LORD

PEACE – AMEEN

MAY GOD GUIDE YOU TO THE RIGHT PATH

Courtesy Dr Syed Abdul Raheem (Sufi786)

Author of ” The Only true Religion Debate ”

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CHAPTER FOUR

FIFTY THOUSAND ERRORS (?)

at the top of the page, I asked, "Is this your's?" He readily recognised his own. I said, "It says: 50 000 Errors in the Bible, is it true?" "What's that!" he exclaimed. I repeated, "I said, that it says, that there are 50 000 errors in your Bible." "Where did you get that?" He asked. (This was published 23 years ago, when he was perhaps a little nipper) I said, "Leave the fancy talk aside — is this your's?" pointing again to the monograph — "Awake!" He said, "Can I have a look?" "Of course," I said. I handed him the page. He started perusing. They (the Jehovah's Witnesses) are trained. They attend classes five times a week in their "Kingdom Halls." Naturally, they are the fittest missionaries among the thousand -and - one - sects - and - denominations of Christendom. They are taught that when cornered, do not commit yourself to anything, do not open your mouths. Wait for the Holy Ghost to inspire you with what to say.

"CHRISTIAN MES-A-MATHICS"

(Mark 16:19)

THE DONKEY CIRCUS

"Why 'restored'"? Because they had been previously expunged! Why had the references to the Ascension expunged in the first place? The MOST Ancient manuscripts had no references to the Ascension at all. They were interpolations similar to 1 John 5:7 about the Trinity. (Refer to the earlier example 3). Why eliminate one and re-instate the other? Do not be surprised! By the time you lay your hands on a RSV, the "Committee" might also have decided to expunge the whole of their invaluable Preface. The Jehovah's Witnesses have already eliminated 27 revealing pages of their FOREWORD to their "New World Translation of the CHRISTIAN GREEK SCRIPTURES," (this is their way of saying — New Testament).

The Rev. C. I. Scofield, D. D. with a team of 8 Consulting Editors, also all D.D.’s in the "Scofield Reference Bible" thought it appropriate to spell the Hebrew word "Elah" (meaning God) alternatively as "Alah" The Christians had thus swallowed the camel — they seemed to have accepted at last that the name of God is Allah — but were still straining at the gnat by spelling Allah with one "L"! (Photographic reproduction of the Bible page showing the word "ALAH" is preserved here for posterity below). References were made in public lectures to this fact by the author of this booklet. Believe me, the subsequent "Scofield Reference Bible" has retained word for word the whole commentary of Genesis 1:1, but has, by a clever sleight-of-hand, blotted out the word "Alah" altogether. There is not even a gap where the word "Alah" once used to be. ¹ This is in the Bible of the orthodox! One is hard pressed to keep up with their Jugglery.

1. See "WHAT IS HIS NAME" for more information on this Biblical omission of the word Allah. Under the section of "Now you see it, now you don’t".

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ARE YOU FELLING DEPRESSED OR REJECTED?

Are you feeling, depressed, lonely and Rejected?

It may be now it is time for you to make up with your creator

For your creator only holds the key to happiness and peace

Despite you committing so many Sins against Him , it is never too late to repent and turn towards Him

And find your lost Paradise that is Pleasure of your Maker

Just remember this Promise of your Lord

SAHI BUKHARI Volume 4, Book 54, Number 416:

Narrated Abu Huraira(R):

Allah's Apostle ( PROPHET MUHAMMAD)(S) said, "When Allah completed the creation, He wrote in His Book which is with Him on His Throne, "My Mercy overpowers My Anger."

So my friends it is never too late to turn in repentance to your Creator

And ask for His forgiveness , then you will see the mercy of Allah rushing towards you to embrace you

Sahi TIRMIDHI

From Anas, radiyallahu 'anhu, who said: I heard the Messenger of Allah(Prohet Muhammad), sallallahu 'alayhi wasallam, say:

"Allah the Almighty has said: 'O son of Adam, so long as you call upon Me, and hope in Me, I shall forgive you for what you have done, and I shall not mind. O son of Adam, were your sins to reach the clouds in the sky and were you then to ask forgiveness of Me, I shall forgive you. O son of Adam, were you to come to Me with an earthful of sins and were you then to face Me, without having associated anything with Me, I shall grant you an earthful of pardon.'"

AND ALLAH FORGIVES ALL SINS

"Say: O my Servants who have transgressed against their souls.
Despair not of the Mercy of Allah: for Allah forgives all sins: for He is
Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." Holy Quran 39:53

Thank You

Sufi786

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